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 Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:48 am Post subject: Followed suggestions, iTunes 4.7.1 plays, but... |
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| But iTunes 4.7.1 doesn't copy the Hymnized files to the iPod. The workaround you find http://www.hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/ is ok to play tracks in iTunes, but of no help for transferring them to the iPod. Anyone can help? Any ideas? |
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FutureProof
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Followed suggestions, iTunes 4.7.1 plays, but... |
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| Anonymous wrote: | | But iTunes 4.7.1 doesn't copy the Hymnized files to the iPod. The workaround you find http://www.hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/ is ok to play tracks in iTunes, but of no help for transferring them to the iPod. Anyone can help? Any ideas? |
I take it that you ran 4.7.1 before running the new, updated scrubbing?
This situation can be fixed, but it's a pain in the ass. I'm not sure what exactly happens, but once iTunes has decided that certain tracks aren't authorized to be played on your iPod, those tracks are somehow flagged "Do not transfer to iPod" from that point on, regardless of whether or not you've scrubbed away the problem that triggered iTunes' negative reaction in the first place.
The only thing that seems to clear this flag is deleting a track from iTunes and re-adding it. If you've only got a few store-bought files, and if you aren't worried about manually fixing up any playlists that those files might have been used in, it's not too big a deal.
If you've got a lot of purchased files and playlist issues, then you'll need to do something like this:
1) Back up all of your music if you haven't already.
2) Go into the iTunes File menu, and do "Export Library...". Save your library somewhere convenient like your desktop or documents folder.
3) Delete all of your songs from your iTunes Library, and all of your playlists -- but DON'T DELETE THE FILES THEMSELVES if iTunes asks you to put your files in the trash. (I stupidly did this by accident myself last night, but fortunately I had a convenient back up ready.)
4) I'm not sure if this step is necessary -- but I think it's useful: Sync up your iPod(s) to your now-empty iTunes. Yes, this means you'll have to wait through re-transferring everything later.
5) Quit iTunes.
6) Re-scrub your files if you haven't already, making sure to get rid of 'iods' as per the JHymn Info and Help page.
7) Start iTunes.
8) Go to the iTunes File menu, and do "Import...", selecting the library file you'd saved in step 2.
9) Wait. If you had a big collection, this will take a while.
10) You're pretty much back in business at this point, but there might be a few details to manually fix up...
10a) If you now have a user playlist called "Purchased Music" (apart from the "Purchased Music" playlist that's under the "Music Store" heading), you may wish to delete it outright, or select all of the tracks and drag them into the Music Store Purchased Music playlist, then delete the extra Purchased Music playlist.
10b) You might now have a user playlist called "Party Shuffle" as opposed to the "real" Party Shuffle playlist. Same situation as 10a applies.
10c) Some of your smart playlists might need to be manually edited to hook them back up to any playlists they might have referred to.
11) Resync your iPod(s).
You'll probably lose some information like play counts, possibly song ratings… I'm not really sure. I don't use those features much myself, so I wasn't too worried personally. If you are concerned about preserving that info, there's probably some AppleScript for Mac or maybe some COM script for Windows to save and restore playcounts and/or ratings. |
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sderty
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: Wow! Thanks. I'll try it now and I'll post how it goes |
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sderty
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject: Works! Fantastic!! |
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| If you didn't exist, you should be invented. Thank you so much. |
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kalahari
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: de-DRMed tracks |
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FutureProof,
Is there a way that I can tell which tracks I de-DRMed using iOpener?
In future, I will make backup copies before de-DRMing. Also, I'm obviously going to using JHymn in the future rather than iOpener.
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pacohaas
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| after rescrubbing, if you rename the song in itunes, then connect your ipod, it will not know you are trying to hide it and it will copy it over, then disconnect the ipod and name it back(pretty easy with artist or album, just add or delete a letter) and it will be updated and the "won't copy to ipod" message will be gone without having to delete your whole library and back it up and stuff. |
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FutureProof
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:35 am Post subject: Re: de-DRMed tracks |
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| kalahari wrote: | FutureProof,
Is there a way that I can tell which tracks I de-DRMed using iOpener? |
I can't think of an easy way off hand (there are probably things iOpener leaves behind that you could grep for), but if you have JHymn re-scrub all of your .m4a files it won't hurt if it re-scrubs stuff that you didn't use iOpener with. |
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kalahari
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: Re: de-DRMed tracks |
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| FutureProof wrote: | | kalahari wrote: | FutureProof,
Is there a way that I can tell which tracks I de-DRMed using iOpener? |
I can't think of an easy way off hand (there are probably things iOpener leaves behind that you could grep for), but if you have JHymn re-scrub all of your .m4a files it won't hurt if it re-scrubs stuff that you didn't use iOpener with. |
Thanks anyway. I have issues with iTunes 4.7.1 even after following your instructions. I can identify one track at a time (that's no longer authorized) by updating iPod. I then delete and re-add that track. A little labor-intensive.
Can you tell me what JHymn means when it says it can't open 18 tracks?
Thanks! |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Followed suggestions, iTunes 4.7.1 plays, but... |
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| FutureProof wrote: | | Anonymous wrote: | | But iTunes 4.7.1 doesn't copy the Hymnized files to the iPod. The workaround you find http://www.hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/ is ok to play tracks in iTunes, but of no help for transferring them to the iPod. Anyone can help? Any ideas? |
I take it that you ran 4.7.1 before running the new, updated scrubbing?
This situation can be fixed, but it's a pain in the ass. I'm not sure what exactly happens, but once iTunes has decided that certain tracks aren't authorized to be played on your iPod, those tracks are somehow flagged "Do not transfer to iPod" from that point on, regardless of whether or not you've scrubbed away the problem that triggered iTunes' negative reaction in the first place.
The only thing that seems to clear this flag is deleting a track from iTunes and re-adding it. If you've only got a few store-bought files, and if you aren't worried about manually fixing up any playlists that those files might have been used in, it's not too big a deal. |
Well, my situation seems to be worst. While trying to sync my iPod *after* the 4.7.1 update, iTunes now informs me that some purchased songs that I did process with hymn are not authorized to play on my computer, in addition of being removed from my iPod.
I then tried to remove them from iTunes and add them back but iTunes will still refuse to play them or transfer them to my iPod.
What should I do? Am I screwed? |
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FutureProof
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: Followed suggestions, iTunes 4.7.1 plays, but... |
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| Anonymous wrote: | | What should I do? Am I screwed? |
Did you try going through the complete library rebuilding process outlined previously in this thread? |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:47 am Post subject: |
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How do you Add files/folders which are on a different harddrive? I have a FW disk with all the music... but I can't add anything outside the system I'm currently logged into.
thanks. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject: i didn't need to rebuild my library |
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this is all i did to make previously hymn'd .m4a files work again w/ itunes 4.7.1:
1) scrub the "non-working" .m4a file with JHymn and save the new .m4a copy in a temp dir.
2) open itunes and delete the "non-working" song from the library.
3) sync with ipod. (this will remove the song from the ipod.)
4) close itunes.
5) re-open itunes.
6) add the newly scrubbed .m4a to the library.
7) sync with ipod. (this adds the new songs to the ipod)
plays fine now in itunes and ipod. sorry, apple. try again next time! |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: mp3s |
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| does this need to be done if the hymned files have already been converted to mp3? |
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FutureProof
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: mp3s |
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| guest2 wrote: | | does this need to be done if the hymned files have already been converted to mp3? |
No. You shouldn't have any issues with the MP3 form of a file. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: |
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I had unscrubbed all my Library, but forgot to clean my iPod before reconnecting it. I think that iTunes checked some tunes on the iPod, decided they weren't unscrubbed, and then flagged the tunes in the Itunes Library.
Deleting and re-importing didn't work. So I added the protected versions of the tunes, quit iTunes and then ran JHymn to deportect the scrub them.
Finally I fully restored my iPod with the iPod Upfater, and then re-sync'd
Everything for fine now!!
Not that rather than re-importing a tune (which goes through the audio compression mechanism) you should just use the add to Libriary function in iTunes. It's much faster. |
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